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		<title>On tankless hot water heaters and sizing a natural gas pipe</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Researched tank-less hot water heaters and their voracious demand for natural gas. Decided to go for the Takagi T-K3-OS because: 1) it is for outdoor installation &#8212; no fancy exhaust flume required, and 2) its *minimum* BTU rating of 11K was one of the lowest I&#8217;d seen (considering that the maximum side was more than capable).</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Researched tank-less hot water heaters and their voracious demand for natural gas. Decided to go for the <a title="Takagi tankless hot water heater" href="http://www.takagi-usa.com/index.php?product_id=2&amp;page_id=2">Takagi T-K3-OS</a> because: 1) it is for outdoor installation &#8212; no fancy exhaust flume required, and 2) its <em>*minimum* </em>BTU rating of 11K was one of the lowest I&#8217;d seen (considering that the maximum side was more than capable).</p>
<p>I worried about the minimum rating because there&#8217;s a dirty little secret about tankless hot water heaters: they completely shut down when the flow is too low and you get no hot water.  Yup, your water conservation efforts of running a trickle of water will be for <em>not</em> with most gas fired tankless heaters.  And after having the T-K3 in use for a few days now, I&#8217;m glad I did worry &#8211;0.4 gpm doesn&#8217;t <em>quite </em>go low enough for my liking.  It&#8217;s probably just me, but the small stream of water I use when washing dishes is not enough to keep the water heater from turning off due to inadequate flow.  You don&#8217;t read about it often, but, this is one of the cons to a tankless hot water heater.</p>
<p>A second negative to the tankless setup is the amount of natural gas they consume at full water flow &#8212; 190,000 BTU&#8217;s for the T-K3. That&#8217;s more than my furnace, oven/range, clothes drier, and old water heater&#8230; <em>combined. </em>Most installs are going to need to upgrade the gas plumbing to provided enough gas flow.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an <a title="Natural gas flow calculator" href="http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/natural-gas-pipe-calculator-d_1042.html" target="_blank">online natural gas flow calculator</a> that takes into consideration more than the standard 0.5&#8243; water column pressure drop that most flow tables use.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s is a good <a href="http://www.foobert.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/ayres_2002_lpefngv-upcar.pdf">paper that illustrates the application of the low-pressure gas flow formula</a> [1] used in the above calculator, and gives some helpful information about how to account for discontinuities. For example, a 90&amp;deg; elbow adds 2 linear ft of &#8220;equivalent pipe length&#8221; of resistance. Things that make you go, &#8220;huh&#8221;.</p>
<p>[1] found <a href="http://www.strandearthquake.com/pdfs/Papers/Ayres_2002_LPEFNGV-UPCAR.pdf">here</a>.</p>
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